Comments on: MonoTouch and the new iPhone license http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/ The Podcast about the Delphi programming language, tools, news and community. Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:44:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Igor Klopov http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-1048 Igor Klopov Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:41:03 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-1048 Recently new version of Raudus was released, which allows to build web applications for iPhone, iPad and Android: http://www.raudus.com/demos/ Recently new version of Raudus was released, which allows to build web applications for iPhone, iPad and Android:
http://www.raudus.com/demos/

]]> By: The Chief Priest http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-982 The Chief Priest Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:24:14 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-982 Better yet, make Delphi that will do Apple and Android Better yet, make Delphi that will do Apple and Android

]]> By: Marc Pike http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-929 Marc Pike Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:16:52 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-929 Apple sucks, Android is the future. Make Kylix/Delphi for android. Apple sucks, Android is the future. Make Kylix/Delphi for android.

]]> By: Phillip Woon http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-902 Phillip Woon Wed, 26 May 2010 03:51:19 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-902 Hey, Apple is a hardware vendor. Microsoft and Google aren't. Therefore, Apple has a vested interest in seeing that people buy their hardware. As long as you use Android, Google couldn't care less which phone, pc, etc you buy. If Microsoft could have their OS run everywhere, they would. People advocate a free market and capitalism, but when a company like Apple is the epitomy of Capitalism, people cry foul and want Communism (where everyone is equal and everyone shares, and every program runs on every hardware). As a lot of people has said, if you don't want to develop for or buy Apple's products, so be it: there are a lot of people who will. I used to be one of those that would have nothing to do with Apple, until I bought one of their products. First it started with an iMac, then an iPhone, then a Mac Mini. Now I've ordered an iPad. I've started learning XCode , after being a Delphi guy for 15 years or so, C# guy for around 4 years, and Java before that. Don't close your mind to opportunities. After all, it's about making money, and by discounting one platform, you never know if you could be successful there. Hey, Apple is a hardware vendor. Microsoft and Google aren’t. Therefore, Apple has a vested interest in seeing that people buy their hardware. As long as you use Android, Google couldn’t care less which phone, pc, etc you buy. If Microsoft could have their OS run everywhere, they would. People advocate a free market and capitalism, but when a company like Apple is the epitomy of Capitalism, people cry foul and want Communism (where everyone is equal and everyone shares, and every program runs on every hardware).

As a lot of people has said, if you don’t want to develop for or buy Apple’s products, so be it: there are a lot of people who will. I used to be one of those that would have nothing to do with Apple, until I bought one of their products. First it started with an iMac, then an iPhone, then a Mac Mini. Now I’ve ordered an iPad. I’ve started learning XCode , after being a Delphi guy for 15 years or so, C# guy for around 4 years, and Java before that. Don’t close your mind to opportunities. After all, it’s about making money, and by discounting one platform, you never know if you could be successful there.

]]> By: Daniel Magin http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-867 Daniel Magin Mon, 10 May 2010 16:13:24 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-867 @tom: Yes Android is expanding, but if i look on the marketplace (http://www.android.com/market/) its really disappointing. if you look the very good organized iTunes Store Google has to learn much more to promote applications. Do you really think the iPhone with 180.000 apps is the "small" world and the android with 10.000 is the big? But that's a free world and everybody can decide what ever like :-) regards daniel magin (germany) @tom: Yes Android is expanding, but if i look on the marketplace (http://www.android.com/market/) its really disappointing. if you look the very good organized iTunes Store Google has to learn much more to promote applications.
Do you really think the iPhone with 180.000 apps is the “small” world and the android with 10.000 is the big?

But that’s a free world and everybody can decide what ever like :-)

regards
daniel magin
(germany)

]]> By: Tom http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-866 Tom Mon, 10 May 2010 16:00:17 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-866 Hey, if it's any food for thought, I'm a non-technical person, and an 'average' early to mid term adopter. I just ditched my Iphone for an HTC handset running Android - and haven't looked back. I was bored of the closed little iworld the thing offered me, and am looking forward to a world full of new innovation. Hey, if it’s any food for thought, I’m a non-technical person, and an ‘average’ early to mid term adopter.
I just ditched my Iphone for an HTC handset running Android – and haven’t looked back. I was bored of the closed little iworld the thing offered me, and am looking forward to a world full of new innovation.

]]> By: Wouter http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-790 Wouter Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:04:41 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-790 It's a bit of a trend. Windows mobile 7 is going to be just as closed. You can only develop with C# and silverlight. You can't run natively compiled applications (byebye c, c++, fpc!), it doesn't support the compact framework, no winforms, and you can only load applications from Visual Studio, or via MarketPlace. Besides that it won't have multitasking. At my work we've been a windows mobile shop for years. We deliver applications including the phone. We've got plenty of C++ and C# applications for Windows Mobile 5/6 in the field at the moment, but we now consider Windows Mobile to be a dead end road. We never took the iPhone serious as a longterm development platform because of all the silly restrictions. That basically leaves Android as the only option. We've recently did some successful tests with it. It now looks like that's going to be our future platform. No matter what, we're going to have to rewrite a lot of stuff. It’s a bit of a trend. Windows mobile 7 is going to be just as closed.

You can only develop with C# and silverlight. You can’t run natively compiled applications (byebye c, c++, fpc!), it doesn’t support the compact framework, no winforms, and you can only load applications from Visual Studio, or via MarketPlace. Besides that it won’t have multitasking.

At my work we’ve been a windows mobile shop for years. We deliver applications including the phone. We’ve got plenty of C++ and C# applications for Windows Mobile 5/6 in the field at the moment, but we now consider Windows Mobile to be a dead end road.
We never took the iPhone serious as a longterm development platform because of all the silly restrictions.

That basically leaves Android as the only option. We’ve recently did some successful tests with it. It now looks like that’s going to be our future platform. No matter what, we’re going to have to rewrite a lot of stuff.

]]> By: Ajasja Ljubetič http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-785 Ajasja Ljubetič Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:46:47 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-785 It's their cab, but I would never ride in it... It’s their cab, but I would never ride in it…

]]> By: Olaf Monien http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-780 Olaf Monien Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:11:13 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-780 @Jamie: Honestly, I do not think so. It leads to a "least common denominator" approach, which means you can do a little of everything, but nothing in depth. @Jamie: Honestly, I do not think so. It leads to a “least common denominator” approach, which means you can do a little of everything, but nothing in depth.

]]> By: Jamie http://delphi.org/2010/04/monotouch-and-the-new-iphone-license/comment-page-1/#comment-779 Jamie Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:59:50 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=933#comment-779 @Olaf: No, as I said, we as developers have a responsibilty to ensure that we do have a wide skillset and truth be told I would learn Obj-C if I wanted to write an iPhone app but for me personally this is a principalled objection. Let me phrase it another way unrelated to Apple or any emotive topics: Wouldn't life be much easier if we could run any code on any platform? Practicalities aside, isn't that a goal worth pushing towards and not away from? @Olaf: No, as I said, we as developers have a responsibilty to ensure that we do have a wide skillset and truth be told I would learn Obj-C if I wanted to write an iPhone app but for me personally this is a principalled objection. Let me phrase it another way unrelated to Apple or any emotive topics:

Wouldn’t life be much easier if we could run any code on any platform? Practicalities aside, isn’t that a goal worth pushing towards and not away from?

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