Comments on: Delphi could be 2008 Language of the Year http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/ The Podcast about the Delphi programming language, tools, news and community. Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:44:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Oliver Giesen http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-280 Oliver Giesen Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:16:13 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-280 Another major flaw with the TIOBE index that I haven't seen addressed anywhere so far is that "XYZ programming" matches English language pages only... Given the often stated fact that Delphi is more successful outside the US this is bound to skew the stats even more, isn't it. Agreed, not more than it skews the other (programming) languages but still... (and most of those are not said to be more popular outside the US) Another major flaw with the TIOBE index that I haven’t seen addressed anywhere so far is that “XYZ programming” matches English language pages only… Given the often stated fact that Delphi is more successful outside the US this is bound to skew the stats even more, isn’t it. Agreed, not more than it skews the other (programming) languages but still… (and most of those are not said to be more popular outside the US)

]]> By: Jim McKeeth http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-273 Jim McKeeth Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:14:37 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-273 I'll email them about Lazarus again, although as @Greymont pointed out, they only take the highest rated key phrase and use that. So combining Lazarus into the Delphi programming grouping is only an ideological point (not that there is anything wrong with that.) I’ll email them about Lazarus again, although as @Greymont pointed out, they only take the highest rated key phrase and use that. So combining Lazarus into the Delphi programming grouping is only an ideological point (not that there is anything wrong with that.)

]]> By: Christian Wimmer http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-272 Christian Wimmer Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:48:45 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-272 If you are a beginner you'll get Lazarus (mostly). If you are more experienced you'll checkout FreePascal. I don't see Lazarus as an IDE only! You download it, write code, compile and run your programm. That's for me Rapid Application Development : RAD. Am I wrong? If you are a beginner you’ll get Lazarus (mostly). If you are more experienced you’ll checkout FreePascal. I don’t see Lazarus as an IDE only! You download it, write code, compile and run your programm. That’s for me Rapid Application Development : RAD. Am I wrong?

]]> By: Marco van de Voort http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-271 Marco van de Voort Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:28:34 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-271 Free Pascal probably won't do that, Delphi is a registered trademark Free Pascal probably won’t do that, Delphi is a registered trademark

]]> By: Marcel http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-270 Marcel Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:27:08 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-270 NLDelphi is now showing "Dutch Delphi programming" on all the forum pages. NLDelphi is now showing “Dutch Delphi programming” on all the forum pages.

]]> By: Greymont http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-269 Greymont Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:59:45 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-269 On second thought, forget grouping Pascal with Delphi. Further examination of the methodology shows that they are not summing the groupings to get a collective rating but taking the maximum value of any item in the group. So they are more interested in peak ratings than overall usage or coverage. Therefore, it matters not if the groupings are accurate. Clearly the methodology is questionable as to its usefulness. On second thought, forget grouping Pascal with Delphi. Further examination of the methodology shows that they are not summing the groupings to get a collective rating but taking the maximum value of any item in the group. So they are more interested in peak ratings than overall usage or coverage. Therefore, it matters not if the groupings are accurate.

Clearly the methodology is questionable as to its usefulness.

]]> By: Greymont http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-268 Greymont Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:33:58 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-268 You should ask them to group "Pascal Programming" together with "Delphi Programming". I see them as separate langauges in the listings even though the details about how they rank indicate they should be grouped together. In other words, they do not seem to be following their own methodology. You should ask them to group “Pascal Programming” together with “Delphi Programming”. I see them as separate langauges in the listings even though the details about how they rank indicate they should be grouped together. In other words, they do not seem to be following their own methodology.

]]> By: Marco van de Voort http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Marco van de Voort Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:14:54 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-267 > but is not adding Lazarus because it is the IDE not the language. I don't get this? Lazarus and Free Pascal certain qualify for Delphi. Lazarus is not a pure IDE, it is a full RAD, and comes with the compiler prepackaged. The differences between Delphi and Free Pascal/Lazarus in language are smaller than the difference within various Delphi versions. > but is not adding Lazarus because it is the IDE not the language.

I don’t get this? Lazarus and Free Pascal certain qualify for Delphi. Lazarus is not a pure IDE, it is a full RAD, and comes with the compiler prepackaged.

The differences between Delphi and Free Pascal/Lazarus in language are smaller than the difference within various Delphi versions.

]]> By: Luc Neville http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-266 Luc Neville Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:19:18 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-266 I also asked the www.nldephi.com site to help out in this. If you know your dutch here you can find the thread:http://www.nldelphi.com/forum/showthread.php?p=261312#post261312. I also asked the http://www.nldephi.com site to help out in this. If you know your dutch here you can find the thread:http://www.nldelphi.com/forum/showthread.php?p=261312#post261312.

]]> By: Lachlan Gemmell http://delphi.org/2008/10/delphi-language-of-the-year-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-265 Lachlan Gemmell Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:27:42 +0000 http://www.delphi.org/?p=316#comment-265 You get Delphi declared language of the year and I will eat my words from the other day. The publicity that would generate would definitely be worthwhile even if the metric used to measure it is flawed and easily manipulated. I would expect a quick retaliation from the other languages though. ;-) You get Delphi declared language of the year and I will eat my words from the other day. The publicity that would generate would definitely be worthwhile even if the metric used to measure it is flawed and easily manipulated.

I would expect a quick retaliation from the other languages though. ;-)

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